*SPOILERS AHEAD FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN ALL OF THE SAW MOVIES...CAUTION*Lovely day ladies and gents,
As those of you who are close to me know, I am a huge horror movie buff. With that said, the Saw series is my favorite in the genre. The game I propose to play with you all here is called " Stop ~breath's~ head from exploding" from trying to figure out how the heck Saw 4 is going to play out. I now know that I am sincerely a sadist at heart after spending hours trying to figure this out( self mental mutilation, anyone?). I know many of you either would say" Its just a movie, let it go" or " Why figure it out, it will ruin it"...but...but..argggggggggggg!
For those of you who are not interested in the least bit in this post, please have a good day and come back when my sanity has returned..HA. For those of you who have an interest in the Saw series...let us begin.
This is what we know:
1). Jigsaw is dead...dead I tell you! Deader than a doornail, as spoken by the producers themselves. " Mark Burg confirmed in yet another interview that Jigsaw had indeed been killed off in Saw III". So that is not disputed.
2.) Amanda, Jigsaw's apprentice is also dead and will not be returning as a living being in Saw 4, only in flashbacks.
3).The character Jeff still has his game to finish by finding his daughter somewhere in Jigsaw's lair.
4). Unanswered questions from Saw 3: What the heck was in that envelope that Jigsaw gave to Amanda...what did she read that upset her so much? Just what was on that tape that Jigsaw covered in wax on his bedside table? Who was the woman in the flashbacks Jigsaw had while he was "hallucinating" for lack of a better word? Why was the character Obi from Saw 2 seen in the same flashback John had with the woman in the park?
Okay....deep breath.....
What we know from the producers so far about Saw 4:
Jigsaw (Tobin Bell) and his apprentice Amanda (Shawnee Smith) are dead. Upon the news of Detective Kerry (Dina Meyer)'s murder, two seasoned FBI profilers, Agent Strahm (Scott Patterson) and Agent Perez (Athena Karkanis), arrive at the depleted police precinct and help veteran Detective Hoffman (Costas Mandylor) sift through Jigsaw's latest grizzly game of victims and piece together the puzzle. However, when SWAT Commander Rigg (Lyriq Bent), the last officer untouched by Jigsaw, is suddenly abducted and thrust into the madman's harrowing game, the officer has but ninety minutes to overcome a series of interconnected traps... or face the deadly consequences. Rigg's citywide pursuit leaves a wake of dead bodies, and Detective Hoffman and the FBI uncover long hidden clues that lead them back to Jigsaw's ex-wife Jill (Betsy Russell). The genesis of Jigsaw's evil is unveiled, exposing the puppet master's true intentions and the sinister plan for his past, present and future victims.
Okay...easy enough said.Here we go with the buts':
1). We have been told that Jigsaw WILL be in Saw 4. Not as a ghost, not entirely in flashbacks, not just merely a corpse either. He will actually have dialog with one other person. Huh? What?...okay deep breath...whew. How can this be?
"Mark Burg confirmed in yet another interview that Jigsaw had indeed been killed off in Saw III and his role( in Saw 4) will be neither a ghost nor confined to flashbacks."
"The filmmakers behind "Saw IV" promise not to cheat the fans who stuck by the first three. Though their main killer, Jigsaw, perished at the end of "Saw III," actor Tobin Bell remains in "Saw IV." And producer Mark Burg promises that they're not pulling a soap opera twist."Here's what I'm going to tell everybody without ruining the movie," said Burg. "Tobin is dead. We don't jump the shark. It's not his twin brother. All these crazy ideas that I've heard, he's dead. All I will tell you is yes, he's dead and yes, he's in the movie."
"Bousman already revealed that there are two new characters in the film, one of which Bell(Jigsaw) explains he will be in constant dialogue with, “There's a guy in this film we've never met before... one of the disenfranchised of the world,” he explains, “Jigsaw comes into contact with this guy [and he’s] the total opposite of Jigsaw. Many people talk a good game. Right or wrong he steps forward and does what he (Jigsaw) does.” Bell elaborates a bit for us, “This guy he runs into... he’s one of the lost of the world, Jigsaw is extremely educated, and the other guy hasn't had anything…. There is an Interesting dialogue between the two.”
Okay...soooooooooo if Jigsaw is dead, yet is going to be in Saw 4 and yet again not merely just as a corpse on the table, Jigsaw not confined to flashbacks, is not a ghost and has dialog with at least one other person...how can this be?..arggggggggggg. He is also not a twin and not a clone either. Oh my, I can actually feel my brain throbbing.
2). There is suppose to be four story lines going on at once? Intertwining story lines at once? Okay, I see Jeff trying to find his daughter and Rigg's game...but...what could be the other two? We have been told that Saw 4 is a direct continuation of Saw 3 and not a prequel so that leaves us with very few options as to the what the other two story lines could be. If we are told that these two remaining story lines do in fact intertwine with the named two above, what could they be?
3). We have been told that Saw 4 will not be like Saw 2 in the context that it will be a "game within a game" scenario. If that is the case, than who the heck is controlling Rigg's game in Saw 4? If Rigg's game has been confirmed to NOT be happening/happened at the same time as Jeff's from Saw 3 while Jigsaw was still alive? Questions, questions.Certainly it cannot be happening on tape, someone has to be pulling the strings from behind the scenes as in the other three movies.Someone has to make sure that things go off without a hitch.
Speculations:
-What happened to Dr. Gordon? Why did we not see his demise or redemption mentioned in flashbacks as we have such as with Adam? Many believe Dr. Gordon will in fact play a part in Saw 4. With the issues stemming from the lawsuit from Saw 1, I see this as unlikely but then again.....it is a solid unknown as to his fate and we are left speculating.
- Detective Mathews will also be in Saw 4. We "speculated" that surely with the damage to his foot and the beating he had at the hands of Amanda that he must be dead. Perhaps he is dead? Miraculous recovery? Who the heck knows!!
- Why in knowing that Amanda was a murderer and Jigsaw despises murderers' did he still want Amanda to be his apprentice? Doesn't that go against all of his beliefs? Still, after Amanda went back and killed Adam and Jigsaw knew of her murderous ways, did he still allow her to take part in his games with other's??
-If technically Adam from Saw 1 was an "innocent" and only placed in that room for Dr. Gordon's test( kill Adam before 6pm)...innocent enough that a key to release him from the chain was placed on him in the tub from the beginning of the game so that he could have left at anytime, why then at the end when Jigsaw told him the key was in the tub and after finding it had gone down the drain did Jigsaw not let him go? Instead leaving him to rot? Leaving him to be later murdered by Amanda and her perverted form of mercy? Speculations...sheesh.
If I do not end this blog entry now, I will go on all day long...HA. I have a home to care for, my Seeker, my son etc. I know I have missed many things to this puzzle but my heat oppressed brain can only take so much.
Back to my game. Can someone please, please, please throw a subbie a bone? Email me or post here your own views and assessments. A subbie who has gone stark raving mad isn't of much use to anyone so please..S.O.S. Please let Seeker enjoy a dinner in peace without being bombarded with Saw theories...help this little subbie to actually not put Pledge wood cleaner on the windows instead of Windex because my mind is full of this puzzle. Allow my son the dignity of wearing tighty whities again and not pink ones because mommy had an "aha" moment at the wrong time while laundering. Please for the love of God someone end this madness...muahahahahaha.
Okay rant over....whew...now back to some reality...what a concept!
xoxox
~breath{MS}~
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saw_IV
http://board.houseofjigsaw.com/index.php
*WARNING; VIDEO CLIPS CONTAIN VIOLENCE AND NOT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN!*
Saw movie trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcPxCRBIN3I
Saw 2 movie trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L40b3FIISJA
Saw 3 movie trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAz1-493OoA&mode=related&search=
Saw 4 movie clip-no official trailer released yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WivmmK79Dcs&mode=related&search=
Great use of the "Saw" movie theme-video of the movie 300:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsV3bHKra_s&mode=related&search=
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